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hardly about scrubbing the facts that al-qaeda group was responsible. perhaps it was to protect president obama. carney and the white house have reason to sweat. here is carney's original explanation about edits. >> the white house has made it clear that the single adjustment to those talking points by either of these two institutions was changing the word to conflict because conflict was inaccurate. >> kimberly: here is what he said today. >> the white house as i said made one minor change to the talking points drafted and produced by the c.i.a. even prior to that had very few input on it. the other discussions that went on prior to this in an interagency process reflected the concerning of a variety of agencies who had a stake in this issue. >> kimberly: dana perino, your . >> hi, greg. quite a day. it reminded me a little bit of what it was like to be in the white house briefing room, in particular the u.s. attorney scandal but i don't remember being under the gun like jay carney was today. they would like to think this briefing will solve everything
hardly about scrubbing the facts that al-qaeda group was responsible. perhaps it was to protect president obama. carney and the white house have reason to sweat. here is carney's original explanation about edits. >> the white house has made it clear that the single adjustment to those talking points by either of these two institutions was changing the word to conflict because conflict was inaccurate. >> kimberly: here is what he said today. >> the white house as i said made...
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it is not just the narrative that al-qaeda is still around after bin laden is dead. all the income pa tense that leaves all of the embassies uncovered 12 hours between one attack and 10 hours during the attack in libya and doing nothing about the whole thing except doctoring talking points. outrageous. >> sean: we have the original warnings that came from people at the embassy, the consulate themselves saying we need extra security. >> for weeks and months. >> sean: and then we have two stand downs during the actual attack when americans were under fire and we don't know who gave those orders either and now we know it was all ed detailed in the aftermath of this. >> and in the aftermath of all of that months later after the election poor old tom pickering, 80 plus years of age coauthoring a so-called accountability review board report white washes the whole thing. tom pickering, sean, in 1983 to '85 was our ambassador in elal value voters dar. he was targeted for asass nation in elsalvador. we tripled the security for tom pickering. wouldn't you think he would say wh
it is not just the narrative that al-qaeda is still around after bin laden is dead. all the income pa tense that leaves all of the embassies uncovered 12 hours between one attack and 10 hours during the attack in libya and doing nothing about the whole thing except doctoring talking points. outrageous. >> sean: we have the original warnings that came from people at the embassy, the consulate themselves saying we need extra security. >> for weeks and months. >> sean: and then...
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you've got al qaeda rebels -- >> thank you. martha, these are legitimate questions you're asking. >> well, here's another legitimate question. >> i think that caution, particularly in terms of arming these groups and in terms of u.s. military involvement is in order. >> well, what should we do? >> well, my question back to you is, why should it be us? >> and here's my question. if the united states commits blood and treasure in syria's civil war, will it actually help? >> i think in all of these countries, including syria, syria, libya, both artificial creations of colonial powers. for us to think we can influence or determine the outcome of that, i think, is a mistake. i thought it was a mistake in libya, and i think it is a mistake in syria. we overestimate our ability to determine outcomes. >> let's return to katrina vanden heuvel of "the nation," bob shrum, and also e.j. dionne. e.j., is there any history out there that says, if we go into syria, there's a real good chance we're going to get a successful outcome? when are w
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qaeda was on the run. and what happened in benghazi proved that neither of those narratives was accurate. >> as you know, there have been those ambassador pickering among others who said i learned nothing new in the hearings this week. did you learn anything new about benghazi? and what don't you know you want to know? >> i did learn something new. there were further it rations and changes in the talking points than i've been aware of. in addition, the whole discussion of whether or not help could have been sent in time is a discussion that joe lieberman and i had, but which congressman issa took to a new and important level. i think it's extraordinary that the head of -- general ham told our committee he had no idea how many americans were even in benghazi and would need to be evacuated if something happened even though he is the person who would be in charge of the evacuation. and we have to remember that there were many hours between the first attack and the latter attack. i don't think we could have go
qaeda was on the run. and what happened in benghazi proved that neither of those narratives was accurate. >> as you know, there have been those ambassador pickering among others who said i learned nothing new in the hearings this week. did you learn anything new about benghazi? and what don't you know you want to know? >> i did learn something new. there were further it rations and changes in the talking points than i've been aware of. in addition, the whole discussion of whether or...
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and the first version said that there were elements of al qaeda involved in this. they said it was an attack. the people on the ground said there was never any question in their minds that this was some sort of a spontaneous demonstration. and when the first version of those talking points came out, all of that was mentioned, and then at the end, you come up with this, "there are indications that extremists participates in violent demonstration." a totally different take on things. why-- why would they do that? >> bob, let's start at the beginning. what you're reading is e-mails provided by the obama administration, 25,000 pages of e-mail. there's on no attempt to cover it up. secondly, this was a squabble between two agencies, the c.i.a. and the state department, about the wording. the person representing the state department happened to be victoria nuland who has worked for democrats and republicans alike, at one time worked for vice president cheney. so she's certainly not a partisan in this exchange about how they're going to term this. now, when it gets down t
and the first version said that there were elements of al qaeda involved in this. they said it was an attack. the people on the ground said there was never any question in their minds that this was some sort of a spontaneous demonstration. and when the first version of those talking points came out, all of that was mentioned, and then at the end, you come up with this, "there are indications that extremists participates in violent demonstration." a totally different take on things....
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no, they actually altered the facts to eliminate all references to al qaeda, on sar al sharia the al qaeda group that claimed credited for this islamic terror. that laid groundwork for the big lie that then moved forward. >> bill: okay. you say, colmes? >> i said i had thomas pickering the ambassador who co-chaired the accountability review board with the chairman joint chiefs of staff mike mullen who said there was absolutely nothing that went untoward here in terms of the time they could not get help to benghazi quickly enough. one of the people who is going to testify tomorrow greg hits, deputy chief u.s. embassy did not tell him although now is he saying that he tried to get help from italy and he was denied or they were denied. the pentagon denied that now he is saying. >> bill: pickering former u.n. ambassador. he was appointed by hillary clinton by the way on the accountability review board not to impugn his honesty. >> he bunt impugn him either. >> bill: their report that he signed said that there was a systemic failure. >> right. >> bill: about leaving the facility in bengha
no, they actually altered the facts to eliminate all references to al qaeda, on sar al sharia the al qaeda group that claimed credited for this islamic terror. that laid groundwork for the big lie that then moved forward. >> bill: okay. you say, colmes? >> i said i had thomas pickering the ambassador who co-chaired the accountability review board with the chairman joint chiefs of staff mike mullen who said there was absolutely nothing that went untoward here in terms of the time...
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"the agency has produced numerous pieces on the threat of extremists linked to al qaeda in benghazi and eastern libya. these noted that since april, there have been at least five other attacks against foreign interests in benghazi by unidentified assail lenants including june attack against the british ambassador's convoy. we can't rule out the individuals has previously surveilled the u.s. facilities also contributing to the efficacy of the attacks." in an e-mail according to abc, state department spokesperson victor victoria nuland took issue because it, quote, be used by members of congress to beat up the state department for not paying attention to warnings. why bould would we want to feed that, either? the entire paragraph was eventually scrub. all the news today made for a testy white house press briefing with press secretary jay carney clearly playing defense on the talking points. >> jay, you told us that the only changes that were made by stylistic. is it a stylistic change to take out all references to previous terror threats in benghazi? >> well, i appreciate the question, ag
"the agency has produced numerous pieces on the threat of extremists linked to al qaeda in benghazi and eastern libya. these noted that since april, there have been at least five other attacks against foreign interests in benghazi by unidentified assail lenants including june attack against the british ambassador's convoy. we can't rule out the individuals has previously surveilled the u.s. facilities also contributing to the efficacy of the attacks." in an e-mail according to abc,...
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drone attack and other materials from al qaeda. i don't think there is any doubt that investigators believe that they were inspired by those statements, and got guidance on how to build their bombs from inspire magazine. >> all right, pete williams on this investigation. thank you, sir. >> you bet. >>> today, president obama is on his way to texas. the second time in two week he's been there. this time, though, he'll be in austin, first stop in what the white house says is going to be a series of events that call on helping the middle class jobs and opportunity tour, they're calling it. joining me now is gene sperling, the president's top economic adviser. good afternoon to you, sir. >> good afternoon. thanks for having us. >> it is interesting. this has been one of the overlooked stories of the week is the dow 15,000. and a lot of various economic indicators are moving in the right direction, except the jobs numbers. there is still a stagnation feeling. is this a -- is it fair to say we're in the midst of a jobless recovery? do yo
drone attack and other materials from al qaeda. i don't think there is any doubt that investigators believe that they were inspired by those statements, and got guidance on how to build their bombs from inspire magazine. >> all right, pete williams on this investigation. thank you, sir. >> you bet. >>> today, president obama is on his way to texas. the second time in two week he's been there. this time, though, he'll be in austin, first stop in what the white house says is...
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we he should have given the cia the ability to go kill and capture just as we have done to the the al-qaeda in afghanistan and pakistan and we are conducting a criminal investigation and to date we have nothing to show for it. it is incredible. >> geraldo: there were three suspects named only now. what do you make of that, general? >> i don't understand it. and what it is telling me is there is not much to this investigation. less ton what i'm saying. the cia knew who did it within 48 hours. they knew the leaders of aas who were inflicting damage in benghazi for a year. they know the organization well. we could have begun to take that organization apart almost immediately following that attack. and we should have been on them ever since that time until we destroyed that organization. and now we are putting free people who are in it on the internet to see he if somebody knows them? this makes no sense to me. >> geraldo: do you think it is possible that the political bickering over the hot topic has impeded the information? has impeded the investigation? >> i think it as huge polyfailure. it
we he should have given the cia the ability to go kill and capture just as we have done to the the al-qaeda in afghanistan and pakistan and we are conducting a criminal investigation and to date we have nothing to show for it. it is incredible. >> geraldo: there were three suspects named only now. what do you make of that, general? >> i don't understand it. and what it is telling me is there is not much to this investigation. less ton what i'm saying. the cia knew who did it within...
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because americans can't be under attack, especially not a terrorist attack if, as you say, al qaeda is already on its heels. mr. president, how could you not send in reinforcements? how could you not send in americans trained for this very kind of emergency? you're the commander in chief. that's your job. and enter hillary clinton. fact. because the benghazi consulate security was so substandard, it could only have been inhabited if you had issued the waiver. fact. your department continuously denied both ambassador stevens and deputy chief of mission hicks request for more security. fact. you actually reduced security when everyone knew of the threats and the prior assaults on benghazi and, please, don't even begin to try to sell us the idea that it was about saving money. because your own staffer, charlene lamb who supposedly was dismissed swore that the resources were not an issue and my sources tell me, lamb is now up for an even higher post in the state department. so hillary, why would you do this? >> i did tell the accountability review board that secretary clinton wanted the po
because americans can't be under attack, especially not a terrorist attack if, as you say, al qaeda is already on its heels. mr. president, how could you not send in reinforcements? how could you not send in americans trained for this very kind of emergency? you're the commander in chief. that's your job. and enter hillary clinton. fact. because the benghazi consulate security was so substandard, it could only have been inhabited if you had issued the waiver. fact. your department continuously...
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we do know that islamic extremists with ties to al qaeda, participated in the attack. that did not appear in there. that's acceptable? >> that did not appear. when i recall ambassador rice was having interviewed on one of the tv shows. she essentially said there were extreme settlements. she did not contradict that. the president's statement immediately after the events, i think a day after the event, was this was an act of terror. there's no attempt as i think my colleague suggested that there was a story being created that there was no terrorist involvement. that terrorism was not at all an issue. i think what was being debated and seriously, again, just a month ago. jim clapper, the head of the intelligence community in the united states, based on his view as a professional all these years, those comments were about as fair -- >> let me go back to the act of terror you say president obama talked about the next day in the rose garden. and that senator mccain disputed. if the president said it was an act of terror, why didn't that appear on the talking points? can the
we do know that islamic extremists with ties to al qaeda, participated in the attack. that did not appear in there. that's acceptable? >> that did not appear. when i recall ambassador rice was having interviewed on one of the tv shows. she essentially said there were extreme settlements. she did not contradict that. the president's statement immediately after the events, i think a day after the event, was this was an act of terror. there's no attempt as i think my colleague suggested that...
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as an alias for al qaeda in the arabian peninsula. but within the press release, ironically released a couple weeks of at terrorist attack in benghazi the press release makes distinguishment between ansar al-sharia in yemen and the group in libya, almost suggesting they're different. while one group should be designated a terrorist group and alias for al qaeda and perhaps the other should not. what do you make of that? >> well, there's a, there is technical precision and then there's the bigger picture. technically the state department release is correct. the group in yemen doesn't have any direct tie of command-and-control with the group in libya or the ones operating now in tunisia which also carried out violent attacks or the ones growing i egypt. that being said they share the same ideology. they share the same linkages with figures who have a history of gloal terrorism, including as i said in the case of the libyan group of a fellow who was inturned for a number of years in guantanamo. they are connected by ideology, the modus op
as an alias for al qaeda in the arabian peninsula. but within the press release, ironically released a couple weeks of at terrorist attack in benghazi the press release makes distinguishment between ansar al-sharia in yemen and the group in libya, almost suggesting they're different. while one group should be designated a terrorist group and alias for al qaeda and perhaps the other should not. what do you make of that? >> well, there's a, there is technical precision and then there's the...
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what does al qaeda look like today? it's been called al qaeda 2.0. a more decentralized organization than the one that attacked us on september 11th, 2001. loosely made up of affiliates and hangers on like al qaeda and al qaeda and the arabian peninsula, al shabab, but who are these smaller organizations? should we be concerned about them here at home? and what about the lone terrorist living in the west, quietly plotting another boston bombing. cnn national cnn analyst peter bergen oversaw the first television interview with osama bin laden in 1997. his book "manhunt" is the subject of a new hbo documentary. what do you think is the state of al qaeda today? >> the best onset of that question is what osama bin laden's own assessment of what it was. he wrote a letter how the drones impacted his group. he was aware that the al qaeda brand and it would be bad for fund-raising and attract a lot of negative attention. that's osama bin laden's assessment and i think that's a pretty accurate one. >> former secretary of defense leonpanetta oversaw the campai
what does al qaeda look like today? it's been called al qaeda 2.0. a more decentralized organization than the one that attacked us on september 11th, 2001. loosely made up of affiliates and hangers on like al qaeda and al qaeda and the arabian peninsula, al shabab, but who are these smaller organizations? should we be concerned about them here at home? and what about the lone terrorist living in the west, quietly plotting another boston bombing. cnn national cnn analyst peter bergen oversaw the...
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a fear of stepping on the president's campaign message that he crippled al qaeda. republicans say yes. obama aides intentionally misled americans. the white house insists the answer is no. >> the only edits made by anybody was stylistic and nonsubstantive. >> reporter: but greg hicks raised doubts about the administration's claim changing the talking points wasn't political. he testified it was clearly a terror attack not what was in the talking points a protest. >> ambassador strengthens would have reported a protest immediately if one appeared on his for. >> reporter: another unanswered question whether in the aftermath of the attack obama officials tried to cover up mistakes they made like failing to properly secure the consulate and bass tor. hicks was told not to talk without a state department lawyer present. >> people at state told you not to talk to the guy who is investigating. >> yes, sir. >> reporter: hicks did talk without the lawyer and said that resulted in an angry call from cheryl mills top adviser to hillary clinton. >> she was very upset. >> repor
a fear of stepping on the president's campaign message that he crippled al qaeda. republicans say yes. obama aides intentionally misled americans. the white house insists the answer is no. >> the only edits made by anybody was stylistic and nonsubstantive. >> reporter: but greg hicks raised doubts about the administration's claim changing the talking points wasn't political. he testified it was clearly a terror attack not what was in the talking points a protest. >> ambassador...
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qaeda affiliates, whether they were libyan-based extremists, or al qaeda itself, is one of the things we will have to determine. that is a simple statement of the fact we knew when we knew them. that is on the sunday about which so much has been discussed and misrepresented. >> now, the house oversight committee hearing on the attack on the consulate in benghazi. this from mark thompson, acting deputy assistant secretary in the counterterrorism bureau and gregory hicks, former deputy chief of staff mission in libya. mr. hicks said he was demoted after questioning statements made by un ambassador susan rice. we are seeing the chairman of issa,mmittee, darrell greeting witnesses. we will hear him give his opening statement, along with a statement from representative of elijah cummings, the top democrat on the committee. >> the hearing will come to order. the oversight committee exists to secure two fundamental principles, first, americans have a right to know that the money washington takes from them is well spent. second, americans deserve an efficient government that works for them. o
qaeda affiliates, whether they were libyan-based extremists, or al qaeda itself, is one of the things we will have to determine. that is a simple statement of the fact we knew when we knew them. that is on the sunday about which so much has been discussed and misrepresented. >> now, the house oversight committee hearing on the attack on the consulate in benghazi. this from mark thompson, acting deputy assistant secretary in the counterterrorism bureau and gregory hicks, former deputy...
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assessment was blocked to call it an attack from islamic extremists with ties to al qaeda. jay kearney today responded to the new revelations of a lengthy and testy press briefing where he continuously tried to point* the finger away from president obama. >> it was the state department. >> this process everybody is unequal players said ever buddies concerns have to be listened to and taken into account but these were intelligence community talking points, can i finish? that theintelligence community have stews sign-off that is their view of what they knew at that time. lou: that e-mail's and petraeus reaction shows j. carney statements are not true and as the scandal shines brighter on secrary of state hillary clinton it appears to b moving in close proximity to the white house itself and the focus tonight on libya the security situation is deteriorating with the potential for conflict rising and that potential cahan conflict inspired by al qaeda wing radicals and the state department issued a travel warning in the region and in addition put our military on alert to respond
assessment was blocked to call it an attack from islamic extremists with ties to al qaeda. jay kearney today responded to the new revelations of a lengthy and testy press briefing where he continuously tried to point* the finger away from president obama. >> it was the state department. >> this process everybody is unequal players said ever buddies concerns have to be listened to and taken into account but these were intelligence community talking points, can i finish? that...
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of or an alias of al qaeda in the arabian peninsula. important testimony coming up. quick break. we'll be right back with more in just a moment. >> trying to make a difference. we got adt because i walked in on a burglary once. the physical damage was pretty bad. the emotional toll was even worse. our daughter had nightmares. what that robber really took from us was our peace of mind. with adt, we got it back. [ male announcer ] every 14.6 seconds, a burglary takes place in the united states. so rely on the fast alarm response of adt. a single adt system can help protect you from burglary, fire, and high levels of carbon monoxide. when an alarm is received, adt calls the local authorities for help. and you can get this monitored protection, plus great local service, starting at just over $1 a day. and only adt offers a theft protection guarantee. take it from me. the time to think about a security system isn't after something bad happens -- it's before. [ male announcer ] call now and get one of our best values -- adt's essentials plus
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qaeda and ansar al sharia. all of this is a distraction from the key issues. a diplomatic host was attacked by individuals in libya, in benghazi. four americans lost their lives. from the beginning, the president has committed all the resources of this administration, of this government, to finding out who was responsible and to bringing them to justice. he also, very clearly, together with the secretary of state, said we need to make sure that we find out what went wrong, what problems there were with security that allowed this to happen, to hold people accountable and to make the necessary changes so it doesn't happen again. and that process happened, was stood up by the secretary of state. it was a process led by two of the most experienced and widely regarded figures in national security in washington. former chairman of the joint chiefs, admiral mullen and ambassador tom pickering. nonpartisan serving both parties for different administrations. they conducted an extensive review of this. they said they hav
qaeda and ansar al sharia. all of this is a distraction from the key issues. a diplomatic host was attacked by individuals in libya, in benghazi. four americans lost their lives. from the beginning, the president has committed all the resources of this administration, of this government, to finding out who was responsible and to bringing them to justice. he also, very clearly, together with the secretary of state, said we need to make sure that we find out what went wrong, what problems there...
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the narrative was, look, we have al-qaeda on the run. we have bin laden, the drone attacks are working. had this actually come out as a terrorist attack it would have destroyed those talking points and been bad for the white house. >> congressman, as you said it is political and the owe bay you ma administration has accused republicans of making benghazi political. republicans as you said accused the administration of avoiding calling benghazi a terror attack because of the electoral politics going on at that time. as you know and as we have seen jay carney being grilled by reporters in search of the facts. he went on to talk about what was going on. you personally though as a member of congress hearing what jay carney had to say, what's your personal reaction in terms of his statements? >> you know, i just shake my head and say why couldn't you have told the truth in the first place and we wouldn't have been in this? if you learn anything from watching the history of scandals developing in washington it is the cover up that gets you. te
the narrative was, look, we have al-qaeda on the run. we have bin laden, the drone attacks are working. had this actually come out as a terrorist attack it would have destroyed those talking points and been bad for the white house. >> congressman, as you said it is political and the owe bay you ma administration has accused republicans of making benghazi political. republicans as you said accused the administration of avoiding calling benghazi a terror attack because of the electoral...
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guest: the people i worked with new that al qaeda was a threat. we have to reflect back with humility. you have to sit back and not defend yourself instead say how could i have done better? i think those of us who looked 11 -- s pre-9- i think we would have had a hard time fathoming that level of operation. eastattacked us in yemen, africa, and a stated publicly they are coming after a period host: you touched on this point earlier, how do we deal with our own civil liberties, the freedom we inherently have in this country, while also protecting the homeland? guest: this was frustrating as a practitioner. you're being told two different things at a time. don'tton we were told why we stop every single 19 year-old knucklehead who wants to plant a bomb? my message as an american first and national security professionals second, the constitution says we live in the land of the free and the home of the break. in the land of the secure. protect civil liberties and as you protect them try your best to find ways to stop people like this. people like this
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revisions reportedly include deleting references to an al-qaeda backed group. steven yates is assistant for president of national security affairs. thank you for joining us. let's get straight to it. 12 versions but ultimately the state department at least one member of the national security council and the white house were involved in those changes. do you believe the president was involved in the changes? >> we have no evidence the president was involved in changes thus far, but this was not a low level decision made by bureaucrats in the system. the communications messaging exercise. during a presidential campaign that could have involved only the most senior advisors. >> heather: we have four brave americans that are dead and no one under arrest or in jail except for the producer of the youtube video who is still on jail on probation violation. if this had happened in a non-election year, would the messaging, would the response following the attack have been different? was it important for president obama's reelection not to include references to al-qaeda o
revisions reportedly include deleting references to an al-qaeda backed group. steven yates is assistant for president of national security affairs. thank you for joining us. let's get straight to it. 12 versions but ultimately the state department at least one member of the national security council and the white house were involved in those changes. do you believe the president was involved in the changes? >> we have no evidence the president was involved in changes thus far, but this...
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is it al qaeda? is it al qaeda affiliates? are they enemies of the state of pakistan, of the state of yemen? is the united states the counterinsurgency air force for yemen or pakistan? these are questions that i think are being answered, but obviously we still need to know more about because if this is really the default way of doing business, if this is -- if we don't expect to see another afghanistan anytime soon or another iraq anytime soon but a lot more somalia, i think everyone agrees that there does need to be greater transparency, greater public discussion on these issues, and sort of greater accountability for how the war is being waged. i still find it striking that, as a reporter, when recently i was covering the john brennan confirmation hearings and john brennan was being confirmed as cia director, i was struck to find that the members of the senate intelligence committee who are the dozen people in congress who are authorized to have the highest level of classified levels of intelligence inside the government do
is it al qaeda? is it al qaeda affiliates? are they enemies of the state of pakistan, of the state of yemen? is the united states the counterinsurgency air force for yemen or pakistan? these are questions that i think are being answered, but obviously we still need to know more about because if this is really the default way of doing business, if this is -- if we don't expect to see another afghanistan anytime soon or another iraq anytime soon but a lot more somalia, i think everyone agrees...
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>> the whole scenario was barack obama had to destroyed al-qaeda, al-qaeda was on the run, he made the right decisions, he would argue, in libya and egypt. all of a sudden this would move of prove maybe that was wrong, and maybe it was wrong pig time and they weren't going to allow that scenario to come out before the election. i think it was crystal clear what was going on. you will have to be a fool not to figure that out. >> let's run this tape. >> 3:00 a.m. and your children are safe and asleep but there's a phone in the white house and it's ringing. something is happening in the world. [phone ringing] [busy signal] >> all right. now some people will say on the left that, well, we just had the hearings. that's not true. all we know now is security was denied that was requested. we don't know who gave the stand-down orders. we don't know why they altered the talking points from the truth to a lie and we don't know why the president wasn't even curious. he went to bed. >> we really don't know what the president did. that's clouded in mystery. and both prior hearings, it's about the p
>> the whole scenario was barack obama had to destroyed al-qaeda, al-qaeda was on the run, he made the right decisions, he would argue, in libya and egypt. all of a sudden this would move of prove maybe that was wrong, and maybe it was wrong pig time and they weren't going to allow that scenario to come out before the election. i think it was crystal clear what was going on. you will have to be a fool not to figure that out. >> let's run this tape. >> 3:00 a.m. and your...
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sharia ask they may be responsible or al qaeda could be responsible. what she did not say is that we know for a fact they're responsible and that's why in the basic talking points -- this is not about the facts of the investigation or all of the information provided to congress in countless hearings, countless pieces of information and documents provided, 25,000 pains of document. that's were the talking points for what public officials, beginning with members of congress -- that's what they were developed for and also provided to ambassador rice, and then she spoke beyond that based on what could be true as opposed to what we knew to be true. >> once and for all, you are still comfortable -- >> you promise once and for all? >> well-maybe not. but you are comfortable with the way you characterize this back in november. this was a single adjustment. yes, it may have been the white house that made a single adjustment, and perhaps it was the cia that drafted the talking points but that is glossing over the fact you had all these other parties involved. th
sharia ask they may be responsible or al qaeda could be responsible. what she did not say is that we know for a fact they're responsible and that's why in the basic talking points -- this is not about the facts of the investigation or all of the information provided to congress in countless hearings, countless pieces of information and documents provided, 25,000 pains of document. that's were the talking points for what public officials, beginning with members of congress -- that's what they...
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the cia had warned of al qaeda threats in benghazi. secretary clinton's spokesperson objected, saying in an e-mail obtained by abc, that the information, quote, "could be abused by members of congress to beat up on the state department for not paying attention to warnings. so, why would we want to feed that?" after those objections were raised, all references to al qaeda and the cia warnings were deleted from the cia talking points. cia original version included references to al qaeda. those were taken out after the cia wrote its initial draft. >> and the cia wrote another draft -- >> reporter: based on input from the state department. >> well, but here's what i've been saying, jon -- >> reporter: you deny that? >> no, jon. >> reporter: republicans say it was all about protecting president obama from a bad story during the height of a re-election campaign and to divert criticism from the state department for not doing enough to protect the consulate. and hillary clinton is already taking fire from republicans. >> i take responsibility.
the cia had warned of al qaeda threats in benghazi. secretary clinton's spokesperson objected, saying in an e-mail obtained by abc, that the information, quote, "could be abused by members of congress to beat up on the state department for not paying attention to warnings. so, why would we want to feed that?" after those objections were raised, all references to al qaeda and the cia warnings were deleted from the cia talking points. cia original version included references to al...
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, an al-qaeda linked group. she sent that. it was circulate to do a number of senior officials, very close to hillary clinton on september 12, and the reason that matters is because it widens the circle of people who knew that early, that it was a terrorist attack involving al-qaeda extremists and it corroborates other independent information that we had gotten by other means, including signals intelligence, communication intercepts of two al-qaeda linked figures who were communicating, including one of those who had participated in the attack and a c.i.a. memo from the c.i.a. station chief to top intelligence official on the ground in libya on september 12 saying in effect, this was an attack by islamic extremists. so you have this from different streams of intelligence, different ways of getting it, different sourcing and it all corroborates the same point. this was a terrorist attack conducted by extremists with links to al-qaeda. >> bret: it was read, the e-mail was read at the hearing, an e-mail from miss j
, an al-qaeda linked group. she sent that. it was circulate to do a number of senior officials, very close to hillary clinton on september 12, and the reason that matters is because it widens the circle of people who knew that early, that it was a terrorist attack involving al-qaeda extremists and it corroborates other independent information that we had gotten by other means, including signals intelligence, communication intercepts of two al-qaeda linked figures who were communicating,...
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qaeda affiliate or an al qaeda supporter, if you will. but then within a few days the u.s. ambassador to the united nations, susan rice, was on five sunday talk shows as you all remember saying this was a spontaneous attack based on everything she knew. and the talking points, declassified talking points gave her those talking points what to say to the american public. that's generated so much commotion and the cause of these hearings, i suspect at least in part. >> absolutely. daryl issa said he didn't think they would delve too much into the talking points, who changed them and why, but it's hard to imagine that won't be at least part of the undercurrent in what's going to be happening here because that goes to the heart of what republicans have been asking about, pressing about, from the get-go. which is they believe that whether it was explicit or implicit, this is part of the culture that had to do with the president's campaign making the point he crippled al qaeda by killing osama bin laden and that anything internationally or anywh
qaeda affiliate or an al qaeda supporter, if you will. but then within a few days the u.s. ambassador to the united nations, susan rice, was on five sunday talk shows as you all remember saying this was a spontaneous attack based on everything she knew. and the talking points, declassified talking points gave her those talking points what to say to the american public. that's generated so much commotion and the cause of these hearings, i suspect at least in part. >> absolutely. daryl issa...
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the cia says it dedeleted the al qaeda references not the fbi. they were unable to give a reason as to. why there were at least a dozen version of the talking points and state department and at least one member of the national security council in the white house were involved in this push to make the changes. harris. >> harris: the big question. if you were only going to change a word or two, why would you need 12 versions? we shall see what happens with this. >> we will. >> harris: catherine herridge thank you very much. >> you are welcome. >> harris: irs in trouble for targeting conservative groups during last year's election season. workers singled out organizations which used tea party or patriot in their filings. flagging them for extra investigation while deciding whether they were entitled to tax exempt status. the irs official blames low level workers in cincinnati and says no top agency executives actually knew about it. both republicans and democrats are calling for an investigation into this. the democrat senator from michigan carl lev
the cia says it dedeleted the al qaeda references not the fbi. they were unable to give a reason as to. why there were at least a dozen version of the talking points and state department and at least one member of the national security council in the white house were involved in this push to make the changes. harris. >> harris: the big question. if you were only going to change a word or two, why would you need 12 versions? we shall see what happens with this. >> we will. >>...
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. >> the first thing that my sources said was this looks like something out of an al qaeda training video. this is so graphic. >> reporter: investigative reporter michelle mcphee covered the murders for an abc affiliate. >> what was surprising was that it was a balmy september night, so warm out. everybody had their windows open an every neighbor said there no disturbance in the nate whatsoever. >> reporter: sources say tamarlan and one of the victims not only knew each other but were once roommates, even training buddies in boxing and martial arts. friends and family tell us they were constantly together like best friends. >> after these homicides suddenly the two tsarnaev brothers vanished didn't show up for the memorial service. >> that's why investigators tell us tonight they need definitive dna testing to even consider charging the surviving brother with murder. >>> overseas into syria where there is growing concern in syria's civil war. tonight the death toll is quickly mounting after two car bombs went off in a border town in turkey. in those towns families and young children try t
. >> the first thing that my sources said was this looks like something out of an al qaeda training video. this is so graphic. >> reporter: investigative reporter michelle mcphee covered the murders for an abc affiliate. >> what was surprising was that it was a balmy september night, so warm out. everybody had their windows open an every neighbor said there no disturbance in the nate whatsoever. >> reporter: sources say tamarlan and one of the victims not only knew each...
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, an al-qaeda linked group. she sent that. it was circulate to do a number of senior officials, very close to hillary clinton on september 12, and the reason that matters is because it widens the circle of people who knew that early, that it was a terrorist attack involving al-qaeda extremists and it corroborates other independent information that we had gotten by other means, including signals intelligence, communication intercepts of two al-qaeda linked figures who were communicating, including one of those who had participated in the attack and a c.i.a. memo from the c.i.a. station chief to top intelligence official on the ground in libya on september 12 saying in effect, this was an attack by islamic extremists. so you have this from different streams of intelligence, different ways of getting it, different sourcing and it all corroborates the same point. this was a terrorist attack conducted by extremists with links to al-qaeda. >> bret: it was read, the e-mail was read at the hearing, an e-mail from miss j
, an al-qaeda linked group. she sent that. it was circulate to do a number of senior officials, very close to hillary clinton on september 12, and the reason that matters is because it widens the circle of people who knew that early, that it was a terrorist attack involving al-qaeda extremists and it corroborates other independent information that we had gotten by other means, including signals intelligence, communication intercepts of two al-qaeda linked figures who were communicating,...
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hardly about scrubbing the facts that al-qaeda affiliated group was responsible. why were they made? perhaps to protect president obama who was up for reelection. carney and the white house have reason to sweat. here is carney's original explanation about edits to the talking points. >> the white house and state department have made clear that single adjustment that was made to those talk points by either those -- of these two institution were changing the word consulate to diplomatic facility because consulate wasec inaccurate. >> and here is what he said today. >> the white house as iin said, made one minor change to thein talking points drafted by and produced by the c.i.a. and even prior to that made very few -- had very few inputs on it. the other discussions that went on prior to this, in an interagency process rehe flected the concerns of a variety of agencies who had a stake in this issue. >> our friend dana perino joins us by phone. your thoughts onrl the developments in the briefing today? >> hi, greg. quite a day. reminded me a little bit of what it was
hardly about scrubbing the facts that al-qaeda affiliated group was responsible. why were they made? perhaps to protect president obama who was up for reelection. carney and the white house have reason to sweat. here is carney's original explanation about edits to the talking points. >> the white house and state department have made clear that single adjustment that was made to those talk points by either those -- of these two institution were changing the word consulate to diplomatic...
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the administration said that al qaeda is on the run. that doesn't really square with the idea that you're going to have an attack probably by a terrorist group on september 11th in benghazi. so, they're saying that the white house scrubbed that kind of information, those references from susan rice's talking points, not just the white house. but other administration officials, as well, to try to downplay that point. the white house says, look, this was an ongoing investigation and, so, they didn't want to get ahead of themselves. they didn't want to prejudice this ongoing investigation by talking about links to al qaeda. i should mention, too, that this group they're talking about at first said they were responsible for this attack and then later on retracted that. the white house argues that they wanted to give talking points that were accurate and not say too much and get ahead of the investigation. alison? >> athena jones in washington, thanks. >> thanks. >>> when many of us think of retiring, we think of arizona or florida, well, thi
the administration said that al qaeda is on the run. that doesn't really square with the idea that you're going to have an attack probably by a terrorist group on september 11th in benghazi. so, they're saying that the white house scrubbed that kind of information, those references from susan rice's talking points, not just the white house. but other administration officials, as well, to try to downplay that point. the white house says, look, this was an ongoing investigation and, so, they...
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they're calling for the arming and funding of al-qaeda. we did similar things in libya as well where part of the forces that we supported there were armed--were affiliated with them as well. a lot of times as horrible as it is when extremely terrible things happen in the world there is not something that the united states can do to make it better. oftentimes the things that we're inclined to do often maybes it worse. that's the case in syria. it's a complicated country. it's hard to navigate the u.s. military is constructed to destroy not to build as we've seen over and over. >> cenk: we're pretty good at that. >> yes we're good at that, and in iraq on weekends dozens of dozens of people are still dying, you can make it much worse. >> cenk: okay, michael, you're saying stay out. >> yes humanitarian aid and even that has a host of problems. we're dealing with a fillover from iraq that we funded. the awakening of the surge was the islamic sunni extremists. a lot of that funding came out you had syria with the baathist refugees, so we're goin
they're calling for the arming and funding of al-qaeda. we did similar things in libya as well where part of the forces that we supported there were armed--were affiliated with them as well. a lot of times as horrible as it is when extremely terrible things happen in the world there is not something that the united states can do to make it better. oftentimes the things that we're inclined to do often maybes it worse. that's the case in syria. it's a complicated country. it's hard to navigate...
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on friday september 14 states "we do know that islamic extremists with ties to al qaeda participated in the attack." later that day the reference to al qaeda is dropped and "attack" is changed to "violent demonstrations." in an e-mail provided by congressional republicans-- and cbs news did not see directly-- state department spokesman victoria nuland argues that the investigation into the attacks was still on going and she objects to language that could be abused by members of congress to fault the state department for not paying attention. then on saturday, september 15, following a meeting of agency deputies, references to islamic extremists and violent demonstrations were removed from the talking points as well as mentions of previous attacks in benghazi and possible surveillance of u.s. facilities. press secretary jay carney today insisted under intensive questioning that there had been no intent to deceive. he acknowledged that the original talking points were wrong in citing a demonstration outside the diplomatic post before the attack which killed ambassador stevens and three
on friday september 14 states "we do know that islamic extremists with ties to al qaeda participated in the attack." later that day the reference to al qaeda is dropped and "attack" is changed to "violent demonstrations." in an e-mail provided by congressional republicans-- and cbs news did not see directly-- state department spokesman victoria nuland argues that the investigation into the attacks was still on going and she objects to language that could be abused...
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qaeda on this, so let's take out some of the references to al qaeda. what the cia left in, apparently, was this sort of broader context of al qaeda in benghazi in that part of the world. those were eventually edited out. and there is an e-mail obtained by abc news from someone at the state department which asks, why should we leave that in because "it could be abused by members of congress to beat up the state department for not paying attention to warnings." so clearly from a state department official asking the question, why are we going to give members of congress information, don't forget in an election year, which they could turn around and beat us up with. and that's how you see in evolving. everybody's got a different reason for editing it. and they edit it down to something that's totally turns out to be in fact untrue. >> well, look, untrue obviously would be the bar of it being completely unforgivable. but simply playing politics with a situation where you need to know what happened. we lost lives there. also winds up making this go past the
qaeda on this, so let's take out some of the references to al qaeda. what the cia left in, apparently, was this sort of broader context of al qaeda in benghazi in that part of the world. those were eventually edited out. and there is an e-mail obtained by abc news from someone at the state department which asks, why should we leave that in because "it could be abused by members of congress to beat up the state department for not paying attention to warnings." so clearly from a state...
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is it because it interfered with the line of al qaeda is decimated and everything's fine in that part of the world. maybe. we don't know. but we need the answers. >> is that criticism warranted, senator? >> well, i think some of it is. it was in the last of a little campaign. we've gone through all of this. now we're going through it again. and my concern is, when hillary clinton's name is mentioned 32 times in a hearing, that a point of the hearing is to discredit the secretary of state who has very high popularity and may well be a candidate for president. so he i understand republicans had a grievance because this happened a month before the election. and every effort has been made to turn it into something that's diabolical. i don't see that. and if i did, i would say it, but i don't see that. >> rand paul says in iowa as he's ramping up for a presidential run, talking about secretary clinton, it was an inexcusable, it was a dir licks of duty, it should preclude her from holding it higher office. >> well, i think that's nonsense, and i think the american people will think it's non
is it because it interfered with the line of al qaeda is decimated and everything's fine in that part of the world. maybe. we don't know. but we need the answers. >> is that criticism warranted, senator? >> well, i think some of it is. it was in the last of a little campaign. we've gone through all of this. now we're going through it again. and my concern is, when hillary clinton's name is mentioned 32 times in a hearing, that a point of the hearing is to discredit the secretary of...
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primarily the references to terrorism and al qaeda came from the talking points. host: the other question is, what did she know about it? as we heard that night, the phone call that she received was five or six days before susan rice was in the program. guest: we have a slowly building body of evidence that suggests that almost all the parties knew from the outset, not only knew but believed that this was likely an islamic extremist terrorist attack here and possibly in cairo. something that i learned looking at the talking points this week, it was a question that i had, with the cairo attacks inspired by the videos, no one believes or is saying that the attacks -- if you look at the talking points before there were change, a reference a warning that went out on september 10 that specifically said they had intelligence that islamic extremists were encouraging jihadists break in as well. if we had a heads up on that, major appearance was onspir sunday the 16th. listen carefully to how she parsed the statement as delivered at the air force base. [video clip] >> this
primarily the references to terrorism and al qaeda came from the talking points. host: the other question is, what did she know about it? as we heard that night, the phone call that she received was five or six days before susan rice was in the program. guest: we have a slowly building body of evidence that suggests that almost all the parties knew from the outset, not only knew but believed that this was likely an islamic extremist terrorist attack here and possibly in cairo. something that i...